Tipping the Velvet
28 journalers for this copy...
This book will be shared with the participants listed below and then... who knows?
1. Sign up for this BookRay by sending me a Private Message. New members will be added to the end of the list.
2. When the person above you on the list finishes the book, they will send you a Private Message to ask for your mailing address. If you are too busy to read the book in the next few weeks, let me know and I will move you down on the list.
3. Make a journal entry when you receive the book to let us know you got it.
4. When you finish the book, make another journal entry telling us what you thought. Pictures, favorite quotes, and other embellishments are encouraged.
5. Send a Private Message to the person after you on the bookray list and request their mailing address. If the person is going away on vacation or doesn't answer within 7 days, please PM me so I can move the missing person down the list, and then... repeat step 5.
6. Send the book on its way.
It's that easy!
1. Flashgirl (MN, USA)
2. mrsordonez (MO, USA)
3. lightwavz (MI, USA)
4. sweetsangria (OR, USA)
5. noraneptune (USA)
6. woodsroy (New Brunswick, CA)
7. talkland (UK)
8. kangaroo (UK)
9. Lukutoukka (Finland)
10. symphonicca (Austria)
11. grover3d (WV, USA)
12. MarthaMinx (NC, USA)
13. jenvince (CA, USA)
14. weeblet (VA, USA)
15. midwinter (AZ, USA)
16. EyeFeminie (TX, USA)
17. guinaveve (OH, USA)
Bookray complete! (That is, the first leg of this book's journey. New bookray participants see entry further down for instructions.)
Side note: For anyone who hasn't read it yet, you may want to join swan-scot's Fingersmith BookRing.
I haven't read any of Waters' other books, but I hear they are even better. I am anxious to get my hands on the next one. I only hope this book doesn't reflect poorly for those who already read and loved Fingersmith!
The picture shows some friends and I letting down our hair after getting into the spirit of our local "male impersonator" show (longing, of course, for a glance from one of the performers...)
Mailed to mrsordonez.
Hopefully, I'm doing a good job of hiding this from future readers. Previous ones will probably be able to read this in the email, however, as it doesn't "read" html. I must say that I was flabberghasted at the end of the first part when Nancy left Kitty. I fully expected them to be together for the whole novel, and was so so so disappointed at first that they were not. Their love was innocent and new to them, and felt much like some of my own experiences. I am very glad, however, that Nancy was able to mature and accept herself as a "tom" and grow out of her "schoolgirl crush" with Kitty into a full-fledged mutually loving relationship. I must admit I relished the scenes with Diana because it seemed so, what's the word?, naughty... I was sad to find that none of the book really delved into the picture on the cover (which would have been a REAL vaudeville show!). I am always one to look for the meaning of the title in the book, and this one didn't show up until about page 416. By then I had already guessed it.
I was really angry that Nancy had to be a "gay boy" on the streets in order to earn an income. Whether as a male or female, she was always made to bend to the male desire and power that hung constantly over her. I was glad when she met Diana and freed herself from that, however demeaning her role thus became in that household. I didn't fully understand Zena's blaming of Nancy for the loss of her job, when Zena was also a willing (if not seduced) participant. I was very happy that at the end of this book, Nancy hadn't had only a handful of sexual and romantic encounters, but rather quite a few. Unfortunately, it doesn't always seem that it was so easy to find so many "toms" out and about. It certainly hasn't been easy for me. Although I rather dislike England and rather dislike the turn-of-the-century time period, for some reason, neither one bothered me here.
I guess my only complaint was that the affair with Flo seemed rushed and forced. It was like Nancy had run out of options about 2/3 through the book, so Waters just dragged up a former acquaintance to make a happy ending. I wished that Nancy hadn't ended up with someone she considered "plain" but rather with her heart ablaze as it had been with Kitty.
I guess that's all I'll comment for now. I'll be getting the book moving again as soon as possible.
Thanks for the bookray, flashgirl! To stay true to the nature of the journal entries here, I wanted to say as a side note that my favorite 'girl in drag' movie is Twelfth Night... Imogen Stubbs and Helena Bonham-Carter are both on my "If I Were A Lesbian..." List. Which brings up a strange point to me. I have a list, I admit it. Most of my straight female friends have a list. But any male friends? No way! Why is this? Why don't men just admit that handsome men such as Rupert Everett are just downright sexy?! Ah, I suppose we will never know!
I'll send this along to sweetsangria very, very quickly... I know that this one has a long journey ahead!
Sent to sweetsangria, next in line on the bookray! Enjoy!
going to Noraneptune next
It really was a great coming-of-age story, and wow, what a way to do it. I thought Waters did a good job of keeping Nancy's character believeable despite her rather fantastic adventures, although I do agree with mrsordonez that the ending seemed a little too pat. I also wished Nancy had ended up with someone else, one who could fan her flames rather than just keep her coals warm.
The book was mailed to woodsroy on Dec. 12. Thanks, Flashgirl, for starting the bookring.
I didn't understand how she could simply cut herself from her family like that though - not even sending a letter letting them know she was alive and doing OK. They were a loving bunch, and except for Alice, didn't cast her out. She just seemed to assume that they would if they knew, but she didn't give them the chance to even try to understand her...
All in all, a good novel. Not great, but good enough that it's worth reading.
Put the book in the mail today for talkland. I could only afford surface mail, so it might take a few weeks to make the journey. Enjoy!
Though the lesbian sex is fairly explicit it isn't just literary porn in that it explores a girl's coming of age and exceptance for what she is and what she wants and needs. Others have expressed how unbelievable that Nancy cut herself off from her family, however I don't as I have experience myself how easily people can be dropped especially when life is going well or badly.
I have a slight backlog of ring / ray books to read first (the entire No. 1 Ladies' Detective Agency series, for starters - oops - I knew I shouldn't have gone away!), but I look forward to this one!
Really enjoyed it, definitely an improvement on Affinity which (while good) is the only other Sarah Waters book I had read previously. Now looking forward to reading Fingersmith, especially as having watched the BBC (? was it?) drama of Tipping the Velvet, the story was familiar already! The TV series is a very faithful adaptation though, despite Nancy having the most grating voice ever.
I haven't heard from the ring owner yet though, but I'm already feeling bad enough about holding onto this for a month! I'll give it a fortnight and if I haven't heard anything, will send it to Finland for it to go to Australia and then back to Canada and the States after that. Hope this is ok.
Edit: 23 July
Left for Finland today.
Now the book is ready to continue its journey, as soon as I get the address of the next participant.
The homey-ness and pungency of the oyster-shucking life, the comfort (and subsequent magic) of the theatre, with its burning lamps and smoke and greasepaint. The tentative longing and burst of love--- All wonderful images! (there are more, but i don't want to spoil it for future readers....) :)
I do have to say that, although I am liking this book a ton, i can't help but compare it to the other Sarah Waters book I have read. On that point, I notice that the writing, while wonderful and captivating and all of that good stuff, isn't as good as in "Fingersmith", which came later. However, this is just a testament to her improving as a writer, and what a strong foundational talent Waters has!
Anyway, I will continue on my journey through the backstreets of London, and will journal more when I am done. Good good GOOD book! Am very glad I got a chance to read it!
There is a musical called "Aspects of Love", and this book felt a little bit like the story in that musical, in that it explored a lot of different kinds of loving (and often the pain associated with that kind of love when things go sour).
Nancy's platonic and comfortable love for her sister and her family (as well as for her 'host' family when she got back on her feet after the break-up), the passionate and deep (and haunting) love between kitty and nancy (as well as flo and Lillian, one could argue), the 'love' of convenience between Kitty and Walter (and one could also say between Nancy and Zena), the imbalanced, destructive and purchased love between Diana and Nancy, the similarly commodified 'love' between Nancy and her tricks, and, as cheezy as it sounds, the eventual love that develops in nancy for herself. If she didn't respect and love herself, i don't think she could have made the choice to stay with flo--- going back with kitty would have been too easy.
Some people who read this book thought the love she had for Flo wasn't as exciting as that of kitty, and i do understand the feeling. It wasn't was whirl-wind or roller-coaster-ish. If you think back to your first love, something of them will always be with you. But I felt like the love between flo and nancy was REAL, in a way that the relationship with kitty never was (and perhaps never could be). Nancy was finally in a place where she could have a real relationship and be okay with it in public, and with herself, and i just don't think kitty was there, or would ever be there.
Anyway, all this to say i really enjoyed the book. It made me think a lot (obviously), and the juicy parts were a nice diversion from the more tragic parts of the story (which were also nice, in their own way--- so well written!)
I will for sure be looking for more Sarah Waters books (i believe she has another one called 'Affinity'... I will have to try to find it!) Thanks, flashgirl, for starting the ring! Very glad i got an opportunity to get my hands on this one! :)
Sent to grover3d on Oct. 22nd--- enjoy!
For me the book brought to mind THE CRIMSON PETAL AND THE WHITE which I read earlier this year - frank discussions of sexuality and character before the backdrop of late 19th century London, but this book was richer and didn't feel like a chore (which CRIMSON was, at times). I hope that its subject matter (dealt with frankly and not at all lewdly) does not keep it from the wider audience it deserves. I'll definitely be looking for more from Waters, and thanks so much for sharing!
I remember the book was wonderfully descriptive, and really showed Nan growing, and coming into a broader understanding of herself. I'll have to add more Sarah Waters to my list, after reading comments of her others books!
Sorry again for my embarassing mistake! This book is too good not to continue on its way...despite the delay. :)
This is in the mail today.
Off to EyeFeminie later today...
I would like to add a pic to my journal entry like many others have, but my laptop is broken and all of the pics are on that hard drive. Fortunately I (actually hubby, he is the computer geek here) will be able to retreive all of my pics and files, but not right now. Maybe I will find a fun pic on the internet to use instead.
I did get frustrated in parts and it is something that frustrates me whenever it pops up in a book containing romance. It drives me crazy when 2 people in a book obviously have feelings for each other and neither realizes the feelings are mutual. I want them to get together, I want them to realize that "the look" that passes between them means something on both sides. Maybe it is the time period the book is set in that makes the characters so reluctant, but I am worried the whole time that the author is not going to follow through and hook them up.
I enjoyed reading all of the journal entries for this well traveled book. I will send it along in the next couple days when I get the address of the next recipient.
Thanks for including me in this ray!
Usual ring/ray stuff applies. Try to read it in around 2 months, make a journal entry when you receive it and send it on, and hopefully enjoy!
arugh48187 (MN, US shipping)
Lpree (Nebraska, ship anywhere)
mellion108 (MI, ship anywhere)
Flakes (IL, ship anywhere)
LisaGriffith (Massachusetts, ship anywhere)
back to me, guinaveve
WILD RELEASE NOTES:
3/4/06 -- Starting book today.
I can't say I've read anything quite like this before, although that didn't make it any less appealing. Honestly, I didn't really know what to expect out of this book, but I was so intrigued after reading the description and seeing how well-traveled the book was, that I decided I really did want to join this bookray! Considering how much traveling this book has done, I think it's held up pretty well and like several other readers have said, it's got a very comfy feel about it when holding it in your hands and becoming absorbed into the story. The cover picture is misleading though, I think.
I have to admit that living where I live, being brought up the way I have, and being surrounded by mostly very "straight" individuals (and yes, I am rather that way myself), I found myself almost blushing during certain parts of the story. I carried this book around with me as I went to and from work and to/from various other places, and I think if my mom ever got a glance at it, or those I work with (I work in a therapy clinic w/ special needs children) saw me reading it, it might get quite a reaction. Just yesterday I was holed up in a library to kill some time on my lunch hour and despite myself, I had to find sort of a secluded cubby hole to sit down and read this. It shouldn't matter -- I know... :')
Overall, I liked the book. It was very hard to put down, and I love books like that. I waited until just now, after finishing it, to read everyone else's reviews so as not to spoil anything for myself. And I have to say that I agree with almost everyone else's comments, so I won't repeat all of that here. Whether you're straight or a tom, I think a lot of the character development and relationship developments in this book could relate to anyone. Like most everyone else, I think I enjoyed the first part best -- all those feelings of first love and such -- and then "real life" kind of took its place after that. I have mixed feelings about the ending. Even in the last chapter, I kept thinking, "how is this going to end?", and though it was packaged rather neatly and more or less happily, I thought it sort of a let-down. But then again, I think life is often like that too....
I have "Fingersmith" on my TBR pile, so I'm anxious to get to that, as many seem to think it's better than this one. Thank you, Flashgirl & guinaveve, for sharing this book! I'm certain I haven't before had a book that's traveled so much as this one, so I feel very special to be a part of its journey! :') I will be making a trip to the post office later today to mail this on to arugh in Minnesota!
I do have to say that I have always had partners with outies and not innies, but I don't consider myself small minded (I like the phrase straight, but not narrow!). And I believe this is my first piece of lesbian fiction. I was a little apprehensive that I wouldn't be able to bypass my aversion to reading about the sex part of lesbian relationships, but I found it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, and am glad I persevered.
Thanks for sharing and sorry for keeping it so long. It will go out to the next reader later this week.
WILD RELEASE NOTES:
Mailed off to LPree as she is next on the list. Happy reading!
It took me a while to finish it, but I'm glad I did. It was a really interesting story and I was really curious to find out how this story would end - it seemed like it could have gone on for quite a lot longer. While I couldn't really relate to the experiences of the main character, I found it all fascinating, especially the time period in which it all took place.
Anyway, thanks very much for sharing this story! I hope to get this moving again in the next few days.
I am reading 2 other bookring/rays right now, and I'll start this one next and have it moving along again as soon as possible.
I enjoyed the book. I especially liked the first person narrative because it was so interesting to see the changes in Nancy's character throughout the novel. Like some other reviewers here, I, too, wanted some resolution between Nancy and her family because it felt like she just dumped them. But knowing the realities of coming out to family members, perhaps that would have only served to slow down the pace of the story.
The "naughty" bits? Loved 'em. :) I liked taking that trip with Nancy as she explored and discovered her own sexuality. It was equally and even more interesting to read along as she matured in her views of herself, relationships, sex, empathy, etc. Hard to believe that a gal of 25 could achieve such insight so quickly, but I suppose that Nancy experienced quite a few more ups and downs than the average person.
It's interesting now to read the reviews here (I avoided them until after finishing the book). I actually like Nancy's relationship with Flo. They both needed quite a bit of healing, and while meeting each other again was a bit too convenient, the time spent in establishing their feelings for each other was well worth the reading.
Although my hubby didn't read the book, he likes the cover (go figure), and he seemed intrigued by some of the comments I made to him while reading the book (of course, beginning some of my comments with "hot girl-on-girl action" probably didn't hurt where he was concerned). I took the book with me yesterday to read while I was waiting to get my hair cut. About 30 seconds after I reached the part explaining the meaning of "tipping the velvet," someone asked me, "Tipping the velvet? What does that mean?" Yep, I got to explain to a beauty shop filled with about 10 women the meaning of the phrase. Education abounds in the most unlikely places...
So many people have mentioned that Fingersmith is better than this book, so I'll have to add that one to my wishlist. I loved the writing in Tipping the Velvet, so if Fingersmith is even better, I imagine I'm in for a treat.
Thanks again for sharing! I have an address for Flakes, and I plan to mail the book on today. Enjoy!
Overall a wonderful story that really pulls you in from the beginning. I was fascinated by Nancy's many loves and journeys. The only complaint that I had was that the book was a bit "explicit" at times!
Thanks for giving me the opportunity to read this great book. I'll be sending it on to ajsmom this week :)
I thought the relationships were well-portrayed; Kitty was the first consummated crush and Flo ended up the mature, thinking relationship. She was right to turn down Kitty's offer of "carefulness" of course - who wants to deny their great love publicly? Flo may not be the great passion that Kitty was, but six years had passed between the first and the last and much learning had occurred about life in general in that time. Made sense to me!!
How exciting that this is the 25th journal - this is by far the longest bookring I have taken part of - and so in great hopes of continuing its' fabulous journey, I have contacted Arwen-Galadriel for an address. I will have the book galavanting across the Rockies as soon as I hear back. Thanks for the ring, guinaveve.
WILD RELEASE NOTES:
Sent to Arwen-Galadriel.
I think the book was about growing up and the conscious choices that we're invited to make in life and sometimes don't because the default choice is the easier or the less glamorous way to go. It's also about the casualties of those choices.
I'm awaiting a response from piggeldy and will get this book moving as soon as I can. Thanks for sharing guinaveve.
I am not sure what to do with it now. I was thinking about offering it up for another ring. Or I might make a written note inside it listing all of the state and countries it has been to, see if that induces an anonymous finder to check out Bookcrossing and the travels of the book. I will have to think about it. I love the cover art and the worn, soft feel of the book and the page edges, I am almost loathe to part with it. It was a great story, but not one I will read again, so I definately want to pass it on somehow.
Thank you Franciek for the bookmark you included with it.
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