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Improvements to book cover image lookups just deployed

Hi Everyone,

I've been furiously cranking out little improvements here and there for the last coupla weeks, but thought this one deserved special mention: I just deployed some fixes for the missing cover image bug.

Not sure it's a complete fix, but go through a book registration or two and let me know what you think.

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Hi Everyone,

I've been furiously cranking out little improvements here and there for the last coupla weeks, but thought this one deserved special mention: I just deployed some fixes for the missing cover image bug.

Not sure it's a complete fix, but go through a book registration or two and let me know what you think.
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I've just successfully Updated the Covers of the two books I'd registered without them - and they're showing on my Bookshelf, no problem, wonderful, I'm delighted :-) Thank you!
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Seems to be working, on my shelf at least. I went back and updated all newly registered books.
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Hooray! I don't have any new books to register at the moment, but the "update cover" is working fine on the existing coverless books. Very much appreciated!
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Was able to update a cover for all my recently registered books - thank you.
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Thank you.
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It didn't upload the picture.

However i was able to update using usa amazon but still nothing loading up on uk amazon. So I have the wrong cover at the moment, I will update it at a later date :-)

Thanks for doing this Reno. I look forward to further fixes and improvements .



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However i was able to update using usa amazon but still nothing loading up on uk amazon. So I have the wrong cover at the moment, I will update it at a later date :-)


Same here, I can only get a cover from amazon.com, not from the European branches.
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Same here, I can only get a cover from amazon.com, not from the European branches.

I had a UK-published book that came up on amazon.uk with the right cover. The US editions had different covers. It seems to make a difference what country published the book you have. Also, try the trick of adding the author's name to the title on the "update cover" screen. I found another cover that way.
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However i was able to update using usa amazon but still nothing loading up on uk amazon.

I didn't notice that as the correct covers were offered first, top of the list for both the books I updated!
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Hello!

Hello,

I have a question: is there a possibility to upload a book cover for a book that someone else registered?
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is there a possibility to upload a book cover for a book that someone else registered?


apparently yes, if you have the book in your possession. I read how to do it yesterday, somewhere on the forum but can't remember where.
You have to do an advanced search on the book for My shelf only, and from there you can change the cover (haven't tried it out myself).
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is there a possibility to upload a book cover for a book that someone else registered?


apparently yes, if you have the book in your possession. I read how to do it yesterday, somewhere on the forum but can't remember where.
You have to do an advanced search on the book for My shelf only, and from there you can change the cover (haven't tried it out myself).


Here's the thread: http://www.bookcrossing.com/---/524805/
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is there a possibility to upload a book cover for a book that someone else registered?


apparently yes, if you have the book in your possession. I read how to do it yesterday, somewhere on the forum but can't remember where.
You have to do an advanced search on the book for My shelf only, and from there you can change the cover (haven't tried it out myself).


Here's the thread: http://www.bookcrossing.com/---/524805/


Thank you! :)
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is there a possibility to upload a book cover for a book that someone else registered?


apparently yes, if you have the book in your possession. I read how to do it yesterday, somewhere on the forum but can't remember where.
You have to do an advanced search on the book for My shelf only, and from there you can change the cover (haven't tried it out myself).


Here's the thread: http://www.bookcrossing.com/---/524805/

Hm..that's never worked for me, and I don't see those options now. I'm not sure that was ever an *intentional* feature...
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My question, exactly! (Re: Can we add a cover shot for a book someone else registered...)
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Thank you!

That makes my book registering process much simpler. :D
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I just registered a book via amazon.de, but there is no cover image...

I'll try with amazon.fr - no cover image!

And no results with amazon.com


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What's the ISBN of the book in question? Some books have no cover art available, but I'll check it out.
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What's the ISBN of the book in question? Some books have no cover art available, but I'll check it out.

For both books I found an image with Ecosia image (the same like Google images) so there is a cover image. And the moment to choise the book - after giving the ISBN - there is also an image, but at the end of registration, the image is gone :-(
ISBN for the german book:
3-15-001257-0
ISBN for the french book:
2-253-03912-8

Thank you Reno
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Tried amazon.de, too. No cover. All recently registered books are without covers. Pity. Maybe it will work again in some time, well, it DID work before without problems, so ... thanks anyway to try and fix it.

edit: forgot to mention it was the same with me, too, first the image shows but once the registration is finished, it is gone. )-: And stays gone.

edit: example check this one
http://www.bookcrossing.com/---/14516668
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edit: forgot to mention it was the same with me, too, first the image shows but once the registration is finished, it is gone. )-: And stays gone.edit: example check this onehttp://www.bookcrossing.com/---/14516668


same for me with amazon.co.uk

I have stopped using it and just us the US one. It doesn't always have the correct cover so I still have to update those.
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It makes the bookshelf look so much nicer. I know it's just a small thing in the overall BC organization, but it really makes a difference to us. Thank you.
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http://www.bookcrossing.com/---/14366938

cover was shown during registration, but did not show when book was registerd. German book - problem seems to be unsolved here.
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Did you search on the German Amazon, or on the US one?
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Did you search on the German Amazon, or on the US one?

I searched on the German Amazon.
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I searched on the German Amazon.

Can you try the US one and see how that goes?
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I did not find my book on the US-one, so I registered annother book, which is availible in the US-database.
With the US-Book everything worded as it shoul - no problems there.
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3 cheers! My shelf looks better now!
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I just registered 3 books.
The american book worked well with amazon,com.
The british book did not get a cover with .uk, but I could uploead the right cover later with .com
The geman book dit not get a cover with .de. But I could upload a german cover with .com It is not the right cover, but it is a german cover.
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Wasn't something I wanted to complain about but I'm very excited to have it fixed!
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Thanks for all your hard work. 'Looks like it's fixed.
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I registered a German book today, and the cover from amazon.de showed up right away
and an upload of the cover of the edition I actually registered worked too. Just like before the bug! So thanks! :)
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I just registered a german book with ISBN. I did not get a cover. After editing some bookdetails (the catergory) the cover was there.
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I just registered a german book with ISBN. I did not get a cover. After editing some bookdetails (the catergory) the cover was there.

That did not work a second time. But again I was able to upload a cover with amazon,com. It is a german cover and it is the right cover.

All 5 books had an ISBN with 13 numbers.
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But again I was able to upload a cover with amazon,com. It is a german cover and it is the right cover.

All 5 books had an ISBN with 13 numbers.

Today I registered severel german books. It works well with updating a cover with .com . Today I used some ISBNs with 10 numbers. There was no difference.
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Today I registered severel german books. It works well with updating a cover with .com .

And it works with registering german books staightaway with a.com. Than they have a cover (if ayailable) staightaway without updating later.


I am not really sure if any of my information is helpful. But I will keep writing until somebody tells me to stop :-)

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I am not really sure if any of my information is helpful.

I think it is! Do you have any idea on whether there are books that can (or could in the past) be found through Amazon.de, and can now NOT be found on Amazon.com?

In other words: is it possible that Amazon.com now finds everything there is to find in Amazon's databases?
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Do you have any idea on whether there are books that can (or could in the past) be found through Amazon.de, and can now NOT be found on Amazon.com?

Over all this years I registered douzend of copies of "Die Brautprinzessin" in every possible version. This afternoon I registered this https://www.bookcrossing.com/---/14399198/
But I can only update wrong covers with .com, which I do not want. With .de I used to get the right cover. https://www.bookcrossing.com/---/6260140/

In other words: is it possible that Amazon.com now finds everything there is to find in Amazon's databases?

I would say no.

And a lot of time, espesially with older books I could not get a cover with .de either but I got it with google.

I updated this cover while the book was on my shelf and I could only find the cover of the audio version, which looks quite simelar, so I choose it.
https://www.bookcrossing.com/---/14349098/
Since it is a fairly new book I would assume, there would habe been a cover.
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https://www.bookcrossing.com/---/14349098/
Since it is a fairly new book I would assume, there would habe been a cover.

Just for fun, try Amazon Canada.
In any case, it's now clear that US Amazon does NOT contain all the other databases. Thanks!
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Thanks!

You are welcome :-)
If there is anything that need to be tried out, please let me know.
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Over all this years I registered douzend of copies of "Die Brautprinzessin" in every possible version. This afternoon I registered this https://www.bookcrossing.com/---/14399198/
But I can only update wrong covers with .com, which I do not want.

Yeah right, I could get the right cover with Canada. Strange things are happening :-)
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Let me know...

Great, it works - not yet with .fr or .de, but with .com I found the right cover!
Thanks a lot Reno!
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registered 6 books and all held the cover image - horray! Did get the "input error" in #5 on the screen that displays the BCID - but the BCID was there.
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Please!

How can i receive book info in RSS if I give BCID to bookcrossing.com?
I need for http://bigbookring.com.
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How can i receive book info in RSS if I give BCID to bookcrossing.com?

Ah yes, good question! RSS feeds for our bookshelves... we used to have those. Reno, any chance we will get them back?
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Yes! Thank you dear Moem!

I request information on a certain book for the website bigbookring.com.
I send http link "bookcrossing.com/journal/add/xxx-xxxxxx" and read html page code (error or OK). But it't not so good.

And from a zone for the website streetlibrary.ru (for an example http://streetlibrary.ru/lib806276 - now book image is not work).
And in future I think of making an automatic street library. The scanner to read QR-code from a book and to do automatic to catch and release.

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but the images especially on my WL are super blurry. I am using Google Chrome, latest version on desktop
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but the images especially on my WL are super blurry. I am using Google Chrome, latest version on desktop

I've found that my covers are blurry when I first add them. But if I wait a second and refresh the page, the cover becomes clear.
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but the images especially on my WL are super blurry. I am using Google Chrome, latest version on desktop

I've found that my covers are blurry when I first add them. But if I wait a second and refresh the page, the cover becomes clear.

Yes the same for me
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I've just registered two books, my first since the cover fix deployment.

Using the ISBN in both UK&USA Amazons for one gave me a garbled result, almost the right title but not quite, 0 pages and no cover - so I entered it manually. I then found the correct cover art through Update Cover (not sure which Amazon I was in). No problem.
http://www.bookcrossing.com/---/14398771/

It's the other one that confused me.
As I was registering it, it showed me the correct cover (I think it was with the UK Amazon, can't be sure), so that's what I selected
BUT then it registered showing No Cover Art, just like before the fix.
Trying to Update the Cover through USA Amazon gave me list of Truth-titled books by various authors but not this one
And changing to UK Amazon gave the No Results, Try Again message.
But it had shown me the correct cover when I was trying to register it!
Global Overview told me There's No Additional Information but that there are 5 copies registered on BookCrossing. Clicking on the 5 gave me a list of registered books, including my copy with the correct cover icon, repeat With the Correct Cover Icon alongside it - but the cover is still not showing on my Bookshelf.
http://www.bookcrossing.com/---/14398756/

Oh, and in both cases I got the Error Message as well as a BCID.
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the cover is still not showing on my Bookshelf.
http://www.bookcrossing.com/---/14398756/

Your cover is showing for me... it may be a caching problem. Of course that does not explain the issues during registration. But it may be why you are not seeing the cover now.
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Your cover is showing for me... it may be a caching problem

Yes, it's there now! Thanks! I guess I just needed a bit more patience!
ETA: for the record I didn't do any cache fiddling
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Your cover is showing for me... it may be a caching problem

Yes, it's there now! Thanks! I guess I just needed a bit more patience!
ETA: for the record I didn't do any cache fiddling

While I'm pleased to have the cover in place, I'm still confused about where it came from.
It wasn't an option when I tried to do an Update Cover.
I didn't copy and paste it from anywhere.
I certainly didn't scan and upload it from my copy of the book.
It just magically appeared out of thin air . . . . the only clue being that I was coming in and out of Global Overview at the time . . .
How?
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It just magically appeared out of thin air . . .

But I thought you said that you selected it during registration and it did not show up? That selection must have been remembered even if it did not work straight away.
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It just magically appeared out of thin air . . .

But I thought you said that you selected it during registration and it did not show up? That selection must have been remembered even if it did not work straight away.

Yes, reappearing after being hidden somewhere is more likely than magic!
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When registering new book cover art found OK but doesn't stick and get bally cover so have to update cover to get picture to stick. Still time consuming but an improvement on nothing at all in update cover search. Thanks
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OMG, I have just had fun going through my 85 page virtual bookshelf and managed to upload many of my book covers as well as some registered by others but still in my hands! I love it!
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Worked like a charm for me, I went through 20 pages of my books and updated all the ones that I registered. Only 1 incident when I have to use amazon.ca instead to find the cover, and another one when the title is a very generic name, so none of the suggested pictures is actually of my book, just others with similar titles but different authors. I ended up having to use the ISBN.

Really glad to see the colorful covers back. It's one of those things I didn't realize how much I miss till I have it back.

Thanks again, keep the great job going!!
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Thank you for all of your extra efforts, Reno!!! : )

Your most recent improvements for the missing cover image bug worked famously for me for both registering books, and for updating cover images on those missing. Not able to Edit Profile now, but I know that will return...NO HURRY!!! ; )

{{{{{{{{{{{{{HUGS TO YOU AND YOURS, RENO!!!}}}}}}}}}}}}}
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Not able to Edit Profile now

Yes, you are... just go through the Home menu and pick the option called Manage Profile.
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OHHHhhhhh...I SEEeee...that Menu has GROWN!!! ; ) PERFECT!!! : D
THANK YOU, Moem!!! ; )
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Hi Thanks very much, it's worked for me and it's a lot easier this way to find the covers. Thank you!
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and very quickly! thank you for that.
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I think this is just confirmation of what others have found.
I just registered a book, using UK Amazon to look up the ISBN.
It showed me the correct cov er and I Selected it.
After Registration the book showed a Blank/No Cover.
I did an Update Cover using USA Amazon, where the correct cover was top of the list, so I Selected it and all is well :-)
http://www.bookcrossing.com/---/14402192/
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I think this is just confirmation of what others have found.
I just registered a book, using UK Amazon to look up the ISBN.
It showed me the correct cov er and I Selected it.
After Registration the book showed a Blank/No Cover.
I did an Update Cover using USA Amazon, where the correct cover was top of the list, so I Selected it and all is well :-)
http://www.bookcrossing.com/---/14402192/


Yes. The first selection doesn't seem to stick. :-)
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The first selection doesn't seem to stick. :-)

Or .com sticks but .co.uk does not. Someone needs to try the opposite order...
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The first selection doesn't seem to stick. :-)

Or .com sticks but .co.uk does not. Someone needs to try the opposite order...


Think it was .com I used yesterday when I registered a new book and it didn't stick. I will make sure I use . com when I next register a new book and report back.

The update cover is the workaround I am using to select the covers when they aren't sticking during registration.



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I will make sure I use . com when I next register a new book and report back.

Excellent! FOR SCIENCE! :-D
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The first selection doesn't seem to stick. :-)

Or .com sticks but .co.uk does not. Someone needs to try the opposite order...

Success! Perfection, even :-)
I've just registered two books with dot com (USA) and both selections stuck on the first attempt!
http://www.bookcrossing.com/---/14402719
http://www.bookcrossing.com/---/14402727
Hooray! (Hope I'm not celebrating too soon . . . . . .)
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The first selection doesn't seem to stick. :-)

Or .com sticks but .co.uk does not. Someone needs to try the opposite order...

Success! Perfection, even :-)
I've just registered two books with dot com (USA) and both selections stuck on the first attempt!
http://www.bookcrossing.com/---/14402719
http://www.bookcrossing.com/---/14402727
Hooray! (Hope I'm not celebrating too soon . . . . . .)


Yep. Using .com worked for me too. Next book up I will try .co.uk
And then the experiment for me will be complete ;-)
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The first selection doesn't seem to stick. :-)

Or .com sticks but .co.uk does not. Someone needs to try the opposite order...

Success! Perfection, even :-)
I've just registered two books with dot com (USA) and both selections stuck on the first attempt!
http://www.bookcrossing.com/---/14402719
http://www.bookcrossing.com/---/14402727
Hooray! (Hope I'm not celebrating too soon . . . . . .)


Yep. Using .com worked for me too. Next book up I will try .co.uk
And then the experiment for me will be complete ;-)


Experiment complete :-) .co.uk does not stick when registering a new book and although brought up cover images at registration still doesn't at update cover. I am happy with the incorrect cover from .com until I want to release the book.
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I am happy with the incorrect cover from .com until I want to release the book.

I was lucky enough to get the correct covers from dot com!
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The first selection doesn't seem to stick. :-)

Or .com sticks but .co.uk does not. Someone needs to try the opposite order...

I just registered am american book using ISBN with .ca and the cover sticked.
Then I registered an american book using ISBN with .uk and the cover dit not stick.
And like it used to be the chosen catogories did not stick the first time.
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Now I registered a german book and I would have been able to register it with .it and .de and .com all three without cover. Just for the fun of it I tried Italy.
Than I tried to update a cover for this book and I got wrong pictures from .com, .ca, and .it (cover with the same title, but different autors). The other amazons did not show me any covers.
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Then I registered an american book using ISBN with .uk and the cover dit not stick.

I waited a few days to see if the cover would appier (sometimes these things take time) but it did not. Now I upated the cover with .it

So after registering, updating and trying different things and ways over the last week, for me only the american, the canadien and the italien amazon gave me covers that sticked.
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Yes. The first selection doesn't seem to stick. :-)

I've registered three books since the deployment and all three have been different!
The big improvement (thanks again, Reno) is that mostly the covers can be found now without copying and pasting or scanning!
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Weird

When I register books via ISBN, I get the correct titles ánd covers. But when the book appears on my bookshelf, the covers are missing. Moreover, when I try to update them, no covers appear via title-search nor ISBN. All options (.com , .uk, google, etc.)

Do I really have to upload all covers manually or will this sort itself out again?

Edit: Wait, something is happening. I do get covers when I try to update, but not always the correct ones are available. And only on .com
For now I'll try to find the correct ones myself, but I guess there's work in progress. :-)
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And I like the fresh look of the site, too. Nice work!
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When I registered http://www.bookcrossing.com/---/14391250 the correct cover occured on the "Register Book" page agfter searching the book on amazon.de. But it did not occur on the journal page and when I tried to change the book cover there was also no book cover available on amazon.de. So obviouslyBC does not take the picture from "Register Book" to put it in the journal. Why not?
Finally I uploaded my own scan of the cover, but that is not the solution of the problem.

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I disagree. German books can be found on .com
Have you tried out to register german books with .com? Not just to update the cover.
.com does not provide all german books, but a lot. Some books can also be found with .it and .ca
All 3 amazons work for registering german books with covers, at least with a lot of german books. All 3 do not seem to use the same database and do not provide the same books.
But it works well for me and I am happy to be able to resister books again with getting covers straight away :-)
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Thank you very much for sharing this possibility! I only searched my books at .com and could not find the German ones. In future, I will try .it as well (as German is a national langugage in the north, there seem to be more German books).
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Finding German books on .it,.ca or .com may be a workaround, but it is not the solution.

I still wonder why bc does not take the picture that you see after you searched for the book on the register page.
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I disagree. German books can be found on .com

Unfortunately, this does not work for all books. I am currently looking for a cover I have only found on amazon.de. It is definitely not on amazon.com, not on amazon.it, not on google, not on amazon.fr (though, for some older books, I tend to get better results on amazon.fr than on amazon.de) etc. etc.
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Oh, very cool! I have added a few books and am updating the ones already on my shelf, and the feature is working nicely.
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I managed to upload them a few hours ago but not anymore. Hoping it'll be okay tomorrow.

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Edited to add that it's working again. Yay! Now I can go to bed feeling good.
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Yesterday I registered some books and couldn't add the cover photos. The problem seems to be away today, but I accidentally added a wrong cover to this book and it seems impossible to delete it or add the right photo:
http://www.bookcrossing.com/---/14423445/

It's a book without ISBN number, has it probably something to do with it?


EDIT: It finally works - the problem is solved :)
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Yesterday I registered some books and couldn't add the cover photos.

The problem may have been on Amazon's end:
http://www.theverge.com/---/amazon-s3-outage-causing-trouble
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Yesterday I registered some books and couldn't add the cover photos.

The problem may have been on Amazon's end:
http://www.theverge.com/---/amazon-s3-outage-causing-trouble

Not solely. I couldn't upload scanned pictures (book covers) last night but the problem was fixed in few hours. Today I accidentally uploaded wrong cover and wasn't able to delete it. I then uploaded the right one and it seemed to take the change much longer than usually to come through. But it did, eventually.
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Not solely.

I think it may be, though. BookCrossing uses not just book covers from Amazon the book seller, but also Amazon S3 image hosting.
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Not solely.

I think it may be, though. BookCrossing uses not just book covers from Amazon the book seller, but also Amazon S3 image hosting.

Well, of course you're right, as usual.
The wrong cover pic I accidentally uploaded and then replaced with the right one kept changing back and forth the whole night. Now the right one seems to stick, so maybe they've fixed the problems.
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Now the right one seems to stick, so maybe they've fixed the problems.

Well, that's good news, thank you!
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Not solely.

I think it may be, though. BookCrossing uses not just book covers from Amazon the book seller, but also Amazon S3 image hosting.

Does the image hosting (Amazon) also apply to journal photos? I had trouble getting the one I wanted there a while back; accidentally uploaded the wrong one, and then was unable to delete it - it kept coming back.

I had to go back the next day and start over.
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I'm sorry Reno, but I don't think this is fully resolved yet. I've registered several books recently where the cover shows up during the initial search, but then disappears from the registration entry, and the cover then doesn't appear when you try the "update cover" option.

In some cases I resorted to downloading an image from Amazon, or other book site, but then I have to fiddle around with cropping and resizing to avoid having higgledy-piggledy images on my profile page.

I even tried starting to re-register the book and downloading the image from the initial search, but that results in saving the whole search page rather than just the cover image. [This is using Safari on a Macintosh] It would be useful if you could simply save the image from the initial search page, at the right size and resolution, so that you can update the cover yourself using that.

Just an idea...
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I've registered several books recently where the cover shows up during the initial search, but then disappears from the registration entry, and the cover then doesn't appear when you try the "update cover" option.


That's odd. It straightened out on my bookshelf a while ago and now is working fine again.

And back when the site was not pulling the cover image, when I did save it from that first glimpse, before I finished the registration process, it always saved as just the cover image, never the whole page. And I could add it with no problem.

I wonder why mine is corrected now and working properly and yours still isn't.
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I believe it's mainly .com that is working . I can't get the cover to stick using .co.UK and I understand it isn't sticking for other European sites either.

Not too much of a problem to use.com however I now hold several registrations with the incorrect cover. I will also have to resort to copying from other sites or taking my own picture when I am ready to release the book. A bit time consuming. Hope it's not putting off new members who haven't fully discovered the site forums to find the workarounds

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